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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby frank - up in grand blanc » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:03 pm

RoryKasel wrote:Pontiac man stabbed after finding wife, her dad in bed

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/l ... /71874858/


If I read that right it was the father, just out of prison, who took sexual liberties with his adult daughter. In any event, what a damn mess.

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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby middle aged female » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:18 pm

frank - up in grand blanc wrote:
RoryKasel wrote:Pontiac man stabbed after finding wife, her dad in bed

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/l ... /71874858/


If I read that right it was the father, just out of prison, who took sexual liberties with his adult daughter. In any event, what a damn mess.

The younger man began to argue with his father-in-law, officials said. The altercation moved outside the home where the older man allegedly stabbed his son-in-law in the back.


Seems to me he did that twice

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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby frank - up in grand blanc » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:09 am

Outcry after Muslim boy detained over homemade clock

Dallas — A 14-year-old Muslim boy became a sensation on social media Wednesday after word spread that he had been placed in handcuffs and suspended for coming to school with a homemade clock that teachers thought resembled a bomb.

Police declined to seek any charges against Ahmed Mohamed, but that did little to tamp down criticism of police and school officials or suspicions that they had overreacted because of the boy’s religion.

Ahmed was pulled from class Monday and taken to a detention center after showing the digital clock to teachers at his suburban Dallas high school.

Irving Police Chief Larry Boyd said the clock looked “suspicious in nature,” but there was no evidence the boy meant to cause alarm at MacArthur High School. Boyd considers the case closed.

In a matter of hours, the clock made Ahmed a star on social media, with the hashtag #IStandWithAhmed tweeted nearly 750,000 times by Wednesday afternoon.

Groups including the American Civil Liberties Union condemned what they called the school’s heavy-handed tactics.

“Instead of encouraging his curiosity, intellect and ability, the Irving (school district) saw fit to throw handcuffs on a frightened 14-year-old Muslim boy wearing a NASA T-shirt and then remove him from school,” Terri Burke, executive director of the ACLU in Texas, said in a statement.

The White House also weighed in.

In a tweet, President Barack Obama called Ahmed’s clock “cool” and said more kids should be inspired like him to enjoy science, because “it’s what makes America great.”

Asked if bias was involved, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said it was too early “to draw that direct assessment from here.” But, he added, Ahmed’s teachers had “failed him.”

“This is an instance where you have people who have otherwise dedicated their lives to teach our children who failed in that effort, potentially because of some things in their conscience and the power of stereotypes,” he said.

The boy was invited to participate in an astronomy night the White House is organizing sometime next month with premier scientists.

In a post to his site, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg said, “Having the skill and ambition to build something cool should lead to applause.”

“Ahmed, if you ever want to come by Facebook, I’d love to meet you,” Zuckerberg posted. “Keep building.”

The teen explained to the Dallas Morning News that he makes his own radios, repairs his own go-kart and on Sunday spent about 20 minutes before bedtime assembling the clock using a circuit board, a power supply wired to a digital display and other items.

Ahmed’s father, Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed, told the Morning News that his son “just wants to invent good things for mankind. But because his name is Mohamed and because of Sept. 11, I think my son got mistreated.”

The boy’s family said Ahmed was suspended for three days. It was not clear if he will be allowed to return to school now that police have declined to pursue the matter.

School district spokeswoman Lesley Weaver declined to confirm the suspension, citing privacy laws. Weaver insisted school officials were concerned with student safety and not the boy’s faith.

The police chief said the reaction to the clock “would have been the same regardless” of his religion.

“We live in an age where you can’t take things like that to school,” Boyd said.


http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/16/texas-muslim-student-arrested/32489453/

Judging by the experience of my son the fact that this clock kid is a muslim is only a correlation IMO because schools have been flipping out over innocuous things for quite a while. The Columbine massacre and the copycats seem to have changed the way that schools look at our kids. I've shared before how my mild-mannered kid was hauled into the principal's office to explain why he had a date and a time written large on the inside of his school locker. In this case the date was for an upcoming track meet and the time was his performance target for the mile. Why in the hell did you bring in my kid and sweat him I wanted to know, and the answer was a simple "we were naturally concerned..." Concerned about exactly what they could or would not say. This kids with the clock could have been a poster child for the Aryan Purity League and still would have found himself with 'splainin' to do, so the ACLU can just STFU.

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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby RoryKasel » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:37 am

frank - up in grand blanc wrote:
Outcry after Muslim boy detained over homemade clock

Dallas — A 14-year-old Muslim boy became a sensation on social media Wednesday after word spread that he had been placed in handcuffs and suspended for coming to school with a homemade clock that teachers thought resembled a bomb.

Police declined to seek any charges against Ahmed Mohamed, but that did little to tamp down criticism of police and school officials or suspicions that they had overreacted because of the boy’s religion.

Ahmed was pulled from class Monday and taken to a detention center after showing the digital clock to teachers at his suburban Dallas high school.

Irving Police Chief Larry Boyd said the clock looked “suspicious in nature,” but there was no evidence the boy meant to cause alarm at MacArthur High School. Boyd considers the case closed.

In a matter of hours, the clock made Ahmed a star on social media, with the hashtag #IStandWithAhmed tweeted nearly 750,000 times by Wednesday afternoon.

Groups including the American Civil Liberties Union condemned what they called the school’s heavy-handed tactics.

“Instead of encouraging his curiosity, intellect and ability, the Irving (school district) saw fit to throw handcuffs on a frightened 14-year-old Muslim boy wearing a NASA T-shirt and then remove him from school,” Terri Burke, executive director of the ACLU in Texas, said in a statement.

The White House also weighed in.

In a tweet, President Barack Obama called Ahmed’s clock “cool” and said more kids should be inspired like him to enjoy science, because “it’s what makes America great.”

Asked if bias was involved, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said it was too early “to draw that direct assessment from here.” But, he added, Ahmed’s teachers had “failed him.”

“This is an instance where you have people who have otherwise dedicated their lives to teach our children who failed in that effort, potentially because of some things in their conscience and the power of stereotypes,” he said.

The boy was invited to participate in an astronomy night the White House is organizing sometime next month with premier scientists.

In a post to his site, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg said, “Having the skill and ambition to build something cool should lead to applause.”

“Ahmed, if you ever want to come by Facebook, I’d love to meet you,” Zuckerberg posted. “Keep building.”

The teen explained to the Dallas Morning News that he makes his own radios, repairs his own go-kart and on Sunday spent about 20 minutes before bedtime assembling the clock using a circuit board, a power supply wired to a digital display and other items.

Ahmed’s father, Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed, told the Morning News that his son “just wants to invent good things for mankind. But because his name is Mohamed and because of Sept. 11, I think my son got mistreated.”

The boy’s family said Ahmed was suspended for three days. It was not clear if he will be allowed to return to school now that police have declined to pursue the matter.

School district spokeswoman Lesley Weaver declined to confirm the suspension, citing privacy laws. Weaver insisted school officials were concerned with student safety and not the boy’s faith.

The police chief said the reaction to the clock “would have been the same regardless” of his religion.

“We live in an age where you can’t take things like that to school,” Boyd said.


http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/16/texas-muslim-student-arrested/32489453/

Judging by the experience of my son the fact that this clock kid is a muslim is only a correlation IMO because schools have been flipping out over innocuous things for quite a while. The Columbine massacre and the copycats seem to have changed the way that schools look at our kids. I've shared before how my mild-mannered kid was hauled into the principal's office to explain why he had a date and a time written large on the inside of his school locker. In this case the date was for an upcoming track meet and the time was his performance target for the mile. Why in the hell did you bring in my kid and sweat him I wanted to know, and the answer was a simple "we were naturally concerned..." Concerned about exactly what they could or would not say. This kids with the clock could have been a poster child for the Aryan Purity League and still would have found himself with 'splainin' to do, so the ACLU can just STFU.


Muslim kid with a clock that looks like a bomb gets an invite to the White House. Christian kid with a Pop-Tart that looks like a gun? Not so much.
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby guest » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:56 am

“Instead of encouraging his curiosity, intellect and ability,,,"


That is really not what schools do.
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby higgs1634 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:28 pm

RoryKasel wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:
Outcry after Muslim boy detained over homemade clock

Dallas — A 14-year-old Muslim boy became a sensation on social media Wednesday after word spread that he had been placed in handcuffs and suspended for coming to school with a homemade clock that teachers thought resembled a bomb.

Police declined to seek any charges against Ahmed Mohamed, but that did little to tamp down criticism of police and school officials or suspicions that they had overreacted because of the boy’s religion.

Ahmed was pulled from class Monday and taken to a detention center after showing the digital clock to teachers at his suburban Dallas high school.

Irving Police Chief Larry Boyd said the clock looked “suspicious in nature,” but there was no evidence the boy meant to cause alarm at MacArthur High School. Boyd considers the case closed.

In a matter of hours, the clock made Ahmed a star on social media, with the hashtag #IStandWithAhmed tweeted nearly 750,000 times by Wednesday afternoon.

Groups including the American Civil Liberties Union condemned what they called the school’s heavy-handed tactics.

“Instead of encouraging his curiosity, intellect and ability, the Irving (school district) saw fit to throw handcuffs on a frightened 14-year-old Muslim boy wearing a NASA T-shirt and then remove him from school,” Terri Burke, executive director of the ACLU in Texas, said in a statement.

The White House also weighed in.

In a tweet, President Barack Obama called Ahmed’s clock “cool” and said more kids should be inspired like him to enjoy science, because “it’s what makes America great.”

Asked if bias was involved, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said it was too early “to draw that direct assessment from here.” But, he added, Ahmed’s teachers had “failed him.”

“This is an instance where you have people who have otherwise dedicated their lives to teach our children who failed in that effort, potentially because of some things in their conscience and the power of stereotypes,” he said.

The boy was invited to participate in an astronomy night the White House is organizing sometime next month with premier scientists.

In a post to his site, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg said, “Having the skill and ambition to build something cool should lead to applause.”

“Ahmed, if you ever want to come by Facebook, I’d love to meet you,” Zuckerberg posted. “Keep building.”

The teen explained to the Dallas Morning News that he makes his own radios, repairs his own go-kart and on Sunday spent about 20 minutes before bedtime assembling the clock using a circuit board, a power supply wired to a digital display and other items.

Ahmed’s father, Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed, told the Morning News that his son “just wants to invent good things for mankind. But because his name is Mohamed and because of Sept. 11, I think my son got mistreated.”

The boy’s family said Ahmed was suspended for three days. It was not clear if he will be allowed to return to school now that police have declined to pursue the matter.

School district spokeswoman Lesley Weaver declined to confirm the suspension, citing privacy laws. Weaver insisted school officials were concerned with student safety and not the boy’s faith.

The police chief said the reaction to the clock “would have been the same regardless” of his religion.

“We live in an age where you can’t take things like that to school,” Boyd said.


http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/16/texas-muslim-student-arrested/32489453/

Judging by the experience of my son the fact that this clock kid is a muslim is only a correlation IMO because schools have been flipping out over innocuous things for quite a while. The Columbine massacre and the copycats seem to have changed the way that schools look at our kids. I've shared before how my mild-mannered kid was hauled into the principal's office to explain why he had a date and a time written large on the inside of his school locker. In this case the date was for an upcoming track meet and the time was his performance target for the mile. Why in the hell did you bring in my kid and sweat him I wanted to know, and the answer was a simple "we were naturally concerned..." Concerned about exactly what they could or would not say. This kids with the clock could have been a poster child for the Aryan Purity League and still would have found himself with 'splainin' to do, so the ACLU can just STFU.


Muslim kid with a clock that looks like a bomb gets an invite to the White House. Christian kid with a Pop-Tart that looks like a gun? Not so much.

Christian pop tart kid had his supension upheld..and shock of all shocks, the whole "gun" part wasn't why he was suspended...

A hearing examiner supported the decision of a Baltimore-area school principal to suspend a 7-year-old boy for chewing a Pop Tart into the shape of a gun. But his family's attorney is reportedly vowing to take the case further if the decision is upheld.

Andrew Nussbaum, a lawyer who serves as a hearing examiner for several school systems surrounding Washington, rendered a 30-page opinion Monday and agreed that principal Sandra Blondell of Park Elementary School in Anne Arundel County, Maryland acted properly when she removed the boy from school.

The boy, according to Nussbaum's opinion, told his classmates, after nibbling the breakfast pastry: "Look, I made a gun." The incident took place in March, 2013, only months after the school shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary.

"As much as the parents want this case to be about a 'gun,' it is, rather, a case about classroom disruption from a student who has had a long history of disruptive behavior," Nussbaum wrote in his opinion, which was dated June 26, the Washington Post reported. He asserted that the suspension came as a result of disciplinary problems the boy had, and not just because of what he did with the breakfast pastry.

"Had the student chewed his cereal bar into the shape of a cat and ran around the room, disrupting the classroom and making 'meow' cat sounds, the result would have been exactly the same," Nussbaum wrote, according to the Post.


Issue here is Muslim clock kid showed the clock to his first period science teacher... the second period english teacher is where shit went off the rails. He got pulled out of class in SIXTH period and then was questioned by police without his parents and then arrested, taken down to the station, fingerprinted, put in a juvenile detention facility, further interrogated and then suspended. This wasn't some zero tolerence policy run amok this was derpiness on a whole other level.

I do think Obama is straight trolling the right wing outrage set with the invite to Astronomy Day at the WH though.
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby The Beav » Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:39 am

guest wrote:
“Instead of encouraging his curiosity, intellect and ability,,,"


That is really not what schools do.


Bullshit. It's not what the feds and the state let us do anymore.
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby middle aged female » Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:42 am

I'm not the one who thought this or originally posted it, but it's...interesting nonetheless:

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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby pdtpuck » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:08 am

higgs1634 wrote:
RoryKasel wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:
Outcry after Muslim boy detained over homemade clock

Dallas — A 14-year-old Muslim boy became a sensation on social media Wednesday after word spread that he had been placed in handcuffs and suspended for coming to school with a homemade clock that teachers thought resembled a bomb.

Police declined to seek any charges against Ahmed Mohamed, but that did little to tamp down criticism of police and school officials or suspicions that they had overreacted because of the boy’s religion.

Ahmed was pulled from class Monday and taken to a detention center after showing the digital clock to teachers at his suburban Dallas high school.

Irving Police Chief Larry Boyd said the clock looked “suspicious in nature,” but there was no evidence the boy meant to cause alarm at MacArthur High School. Boyd considers the case closed.

In a matter of hours, the clock made Ahmed a star on social media, with the hashtag #IStandWithAhmed tweeted nearly 750,000 times by Wednesday afternoon.

Groups including the American Civil Liberties Union condemned what they called the school’s heavy-handed tactics.

“Instead of encouraging his curiosity, intellect and ability, the Irving (school district) saw fit to throw handcuffs on a frightened 14-year-old Muslim boy wearing a NASA T-shirt and then remove him from school,” Terri Burke, executive director of the ACLU in Texas, said in a statement.

The White House also weighed in.

In a tweet, President Barack Obama called Ahmed’s clock “cool” and said more kids should be inspired like him to enjoy science, because “it’s what makes America great.”

Asked if bias was involved, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said it was too early “to draw that direct assessment from here.” But, he added, Ahmed’s teachers had “failed him.”

“This is an instance where you have people who have otherwise dedicated their lives to teach our children who failed in that effort, potentially because of some things in their conscience and the power of stereotypes,” he said.

The boy was invited to participate in an astronomy night the White House is organizing sometime next month with premier scientists.

In a post to his site, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg said, “Having the skill and ambition to build something cool should lead to applause.”

“Ahmed, if you ever want to come by Facebook, I’d love to meet you,” Zuckerberg posted. “Keep building.”

The teen explained to the Dallas Morning News that he makes his own radios, repairs his own go-kart and on Sunday spent about 20 minutes before bedtime assembling the clock using a circuit board, a power supply wired to a digital display and other items.

Ahmed’s father, Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed, told the Morning News that his son “just wants to invent good things for mankind. But because his name is Mohamed and because of Sept. 11, I think my son got mistreated.”

The boy’s family said Ahmed was suspended for three days. It was not clear if he will be allowed to return to school now that police have declined to pursue the matter.

School district spokeswoman Lesley Weaver declined to confirm the suspension, citing privacy laws. Weaver insisted school officials were concerned with student safety and not the boy’s faith.

The police chief said the reaction to the clock “would have been the same regardless” of his religion.

“We live in an age where you can’t take things like that to school,” Boyd said.


http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/16/texas-muslim-student-arrested/32489453/

Judging by the experience of my son the fact that this clock kid is a muslim is only a correlation IMO because schools have been flipping out over innocuous things for quite a while. The Columbine massacre and the copycats seem to have changed the way that schools look at our kids. I've shared before how my mild-mannered kid was hauled into the principal's office to explain why he had a date and a time written large on the inside of his school locker. In this case the date was for an upcoming track meet and the time was his performance target for the mile. Why in the hell did you bring in my kid and sweat him I wanted to know, and the answer was a simple "we were naturally concerned..." Concerned about exactly what they could or would not say. This kids with the clock could have been a poster child for the Aryan Purity League and still would have found himself with 'splainin' to do, so the ACLU can just STFU.


Muslim kid with a clock that looks like a bomb gets an invite to the White House. Christian kid with a Pop-Tart that looks like a gun? Not so much.

Christian pop tart kid had his supension upheld..and shock of all shocks, the whole "gun" part wasn't why he was suspended...

A hearing examiner supported the decision of a Baltimore-area school principal to suspend a 7-year-old boy for chewing a Pop Tart into the shape of a gun. But his family's attorney is reportedly vowing to take the case further if the decision is upheld.

Andrew Nussbaum, a lawyer who serves as a hearing examiner for several school systems surrounding Washington, rendered a 30-page opinion Monday and agreed that principal Sandra Blondell of Park Elementary School in Anne Arundel County, Maryland acted properly when she removed the boy from school.

The boy, according to Nussbaum's opinion, told his classmates, after nibbling the breakfast pastry: "Look, I made a gun." The incident took place in March, 2013, only months after the school shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary.

"As much as the parents want this case to be about a 'gun,' it is, rather, a case about classroom disruption from a student who has had a long history of disruptive behavior," Nussbaum wrote in his opinion, which was dated June 26, the Washington Post reported. He asserted that the suspension came as a result of disciplinary problems the boy had, and not just because of what he did with the breakfast pastry.

"Had the student chewed his cereal bar into the shape of a cat and ran around the room, disrupting the classroom and making 'meow' cat sounds, the result would have been exactly the same," Nussbaum wrote, according to the Post.


Issue here is Muslim clock kid showed the clock to his first period science teacher... the second period english teacher is where shit went off the rails. He got pulled out of class in SIXTH period and then was questioned by police without his parents and then arrested, taken down to the station, fingerprinted, put in a juvenile detention facility, further interrogated and then suspended. This wasn't some zero tolerence policy run amok this was derpiness on a whole other level.

I do think Obama is straight trolling the right wing outrage set with the invite to Astronomy Day at the WH though.

Teachers don't want to be accountable any more, for the most part. Parents blame teachers all the time for their kids' poor grades, behavior, social skills, et al. Our teachers and schools are underfunded, overtired, and just plain wore out. Fortunately for me and my son, his current teacher is "old school;" she believes in the value of education, she believes in her kids, and she also nips things in the bud before they get out of hand. Behavior problems? Start in the classroom and mention it to the parents. If it continues, she still tries to help and suggests solutions to parents for outside the school. Working WITH parents instead of AGAINST them or their wishes/beliefs (or just passing the buck) usually helps.
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby pdtpuck » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:08 am

higgs1634 wrote:
RoryKasel wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:
Outcry after Muslim boy detained over homemade clock

Dallas — A 14-year-old Muslim boy became a sensation on social media Wednesday after word spread that he had been placed in handcuffs and suspended for coming to school with a homemade clock that teachers thought resembled a bomb.

Police declined to seek any charges against Ahmed Mohamed, but that did little to tamp down criticism of police and school officials or suspicions that they had overreacted because of the boy’s religion.

Ahmed was pulled from class Monday and taken to a detention center after showing the digital clock to teachers at his suburban Dallas high school.

Irving Police Chief Larry Boyd said the clock looked “suspicious in nature,” but there was no evidence the boy meant to cause alarm at MacArthur High School. Boyd considers the case closed.

In a matter of hours, the clock made Ahmed a star on social media, with the hashtag #IStandWithAhmed tweeted nearly 750,000 times by Wednesday afternoon.

Groups including the American Civil Liberties Union condemned what they called the school’s heavy-handed tactics.

“Instead of encouraging his curiosity, intellect and ability, the Irving (school district) saw fit to throw handcuffs on a frightened 14-year-old Muslim boy wearing a NASA T-shirt and then remove him from school,” Terri Burke, executive director of the ACLU in Texas, said in a statement.

The White House also weighed in.

In a tweet, President Barack Obama called Ahmed’s clock “cool” and said more kids should be inspired like him to enjoy science, because “it’s what makes America great.”

Asked if bias was involved, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said it was too early “to draw that direct assessment from here.” But, he added, Ahmed’s teachers had “failed him.”

“This is an instance where you have people who have otherwise dedicated their lives to teach our children who failed in that effort, potentially because of some things in their conscience and the power of stereotypes,” he said.

The boy was invited to participate in an astronomy night the White House is organizing sometime next month with premier scientists.

In a post to his site, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg said, “Having the skill and ambition to build something cool should lead to applause.”

“Ahmed, if you ever want to come by Facebook, I’d love to meet you,” Zuckerberg posted. “Keep building.”

The teen explained to the Dallas Morning News that he makes his own radios, repairs his own go-kart and on Sunday spent about 20 minutes before bedtime assembling the clock using a circuit board, a power supply wired to a digital display and other items.

Ahmed’s father, Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed, told the Morning News that his son “just wants to invent good things for mankind. But because his name is Mohamed and because of Sept. 11, I think my son got mistreated.”

The boy’s family said Ahmed was suspended for three days. It was not clear if he will be allowed to return to school now that police have declined to pursue the matter.

School district spokeswoman Lesley Weaver declined to confirm the suspension, citing privacy laws. Weaver insisted school officials were concerned with student safety and not the boy’s faith.

The police chief said the reaction to the clock “would have been the same regardless” of his religion.

“We live in an age where you can’t take things like that to school,” Boyd said.


http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/16/texas-muslim-student-arrested/32489453/

Judging by the experience of my son the fact that this clock kid is a muslim is only a correlation IMO because schools have been flipping out over innocuous things for quite a while. The Columbine massacre and the copycats seem to have changed the way that schools look at our kids. I've shared before how my mild-mannered kid was hauled into the principal's office to explain why he had a date and a time written large on the inside of his school locker. In this case the date was for an upcoming track meet and the time was his performance target for the mile. Why in the hell did you bring in my kid and sweat him I wanted to know, and the answer was a simple "we were naturally concerned..." Concerned about exactly what they could or would not say. This kids with the clock could have been a poster child for the Aryan Purity League and still would have found himself with 'splainin' to do, so the ACLU can just STFU.


Muslim kid with a clock that looks like a bomb gets an invite to the White House. Christian kid with a Pop-Tart that looks like a gun? Not so much.

Christian pop tart kid had his supension upheld..and shock of all shocks, the whole "gun" part wasn't why he was suspended...

A hearing examiner supported the decision of a Baltimore-area school principal to suspend a 7-year-old boy for chewing a Pop Tart into the shape of a gun. But his family's attorney is reportedly vowing to take the case further if the decision is upheld.

Andrew Nussbaum, a lawyer who serves as a hearing examiner for several school systems surrounding Washington, rendered a 30-page opinion Monday and agreed that principal Sandra Blondell of Park Elementary School in Anne Arundel County, Maryland acted properly when she removed the boy from school.

The boy, according to Nussbaum's opinion, told his classmates, after nibbling the breakfast pastry: "Look, I made a gun." The incident took place in March, 2013, only months after the school shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary.

"As much as the parents want this case to be about a 'gun,' it is, rather, a case about classroom disruption from a student who has had a long history of disruptive behavior," Nussbaum wrote in his opinion, which was dated June 26, the Washington Post reported. He asserted that the suspension came as a result of disciplinary problems the boy had, and not just because of what he did with the breakfast pastry.

"Had the student chewed his cereal bar into the shape of a cat and ran around the room, disrupting the classroom and making 'meow' cat sounds, the result would have been exactly the same," Nussbaum wrote, according to the Post.


Issue here is Muslim clock kid showed the clock to his first period science teacher... the second period english teacher is where shit went off the rails. He got pulled out of class in SIXTH period and then was questioned by police without his parents and then arrested, taken down to the station, fingerprinted, put in a juvenile detention facility, further interrogated and then suspended. This wasn't some zero tolerence policy run amok this was derpiness on a whole other level.

I do think Obama is straight trolling the right wing outrage set with the invite to Astronomy Day at the WH though.

Teachers don't want to be accountable any more, for the most part. Parents blame teachers all the time for their kids' poor grades, behavior, social skills, et al. Our teachers and schools are underfunded, overtired, and just plain wore out. Fortunately for me and my son, his current teacher is "old school;" she believes in the value of education, she believes in her kids, and she also nips things in the bud before they get out of hand. Behavior problems? Start in the classroom and mention it to the parents. If it continues, she still tries to help and suggests solutions to parents for outside the school. Working WITH parents instead of AGAINST them or their wishes/beliefs (or just passing the buck) usually helps.
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Postby Toolbox » Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:59 pm

Mystery surrounds death of woman charged in sex case

Romulus — A woman charged alongside her parents in a case involving sex, a threesome and a computer mogul allegedly extorted out of $3 million has died unexpectedly while awaiting trial in federal court.

Romulus resident Jessica Tackett, 25, who prosecutors say was a prostitute and stripper, died Monday, six months after being charged in federal court. Tackett and her parents allegedly were involved in a scheme to extort almost $3 million from a retired software mogul by threatening to tell police about a threesome involving her, her teenage cousin and the businessman, prosecutors said.

Tackett, the mother of a toddler son, had a long history of drug addiction but the cause and manner of death is unclear, as is the potential impact on a salacious criminal case in U.S. District Court.

“The determination of manner and cause has not been made yet pending further investigation,” Medical Examiner’s Office spokesman Ryan Bridges told The News. A determination could take eight weeks pending further tests, he said.

Her family is raising money for funeral and burial costs.

A 119-count indictment unsealed in federal court in March alleges a years-long conspiracy that netted millions of dollars from software executive Paul Vagnozzi of Orchard Lake. He retired in 2005 after selling his company, Rochester Hills-based Cypress Corp., for $8.7 million.

The alleged scheme was headed by her father, Westland resident Terry Tackett, and involved her mother, Kimberly Tackett, prosecutors say.


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Alleged hooker, parents accused in $3M extortion plot

Terry Tackett allegedly threatened to beat up Vagnozzi and ordered his pals in the "mafia" and Jokers Motorcycle Club to hurt him if the retired software executive didn't pay millions to keep secret a threesome with his daughter and another teen, prosecutors allege.

The alleged threats worked.

From 2008 to 2012, prosecutors say Vagnozzi gave Terry Tackett more than $2.6 million in cash and checks, according to the indictment. The money allegedly bankrolled the father's lavish lifestyle, including a home, Harley-Davidson motorcycles, muscle cars, Jet Skis and expensive gifts for his stripper girlfriends.

Terry Tackett, his wife and daughter allegedly also conspired to hide the alleged scheme from investigators and a grand jury. Prosecutors say Kimberly Tackett and her daughter falsely accused the software mogul of raping Jessica Tackett.

Prosecutors say Terry Tackett had people lie to IRS agents about ownership of vehicles seized during raids and allegedly threatened to lynch one witness if she talked to investigators.

A trial is scheduled for Jan. 11.

Terry Tackett’s lawyer filed an emergency request Wednesday to be released from federal prison in Milan so he can attend his daughter’s visitation Friday and burial Saturday.

Prosecutors aren’t objecting, as long as Terry Tackett is shadowed by a deputy U.S. Marshal or police officer.

“This is for defendant’s own security as well as the community as the government has received notification that some family members do not wish defendant to attend although the immediate family has indicated a desire that he be able to attend,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Ross MacKenzie wrote in a court filing Thursday.

Terry Tackett does not know his daughter died. Relatives are waiting to tell him in person about her death, said his lawyer, Todd Flood.

“We are waiting for the court to address issue and then his family is going to break the news to Terry in person as opposed to allowing him to be alone without any counseling or family,” Flood said Thursday. “We know how much he loved and wanted to be with his daughter and family.”

Jessica Tackett knew nothing about her father’s alleged extortion scheme, her lawyer, Doraid Elder, said Thursday.

“Other than disappointment, she had no ill will towards her father,” Elder said. “She had no knowledge of what her father was doing. It’s sad and unfortunate but she won’t have her day in court.”

Jessica Tackett, who was free on $10,000 unsecured bond, faced up to five years in federal prison and $250,000 in fines if convicted of conspiracy to obstruct justice.

“Every time I spoke to her, she had a clear mind,” Elder said. “She was on the wagon; she was sober. She never expressed to me that she wanted to kill herself.

“If it was a narcotics overdose, I would tell you it would not be something intentional. She would never have wanted to leave her son without a mother.”

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Well, today's the day. Mrs. D-Day is up in Geauga County hopefully fetching the D-Day In The Can (at which point he'll be D-Day Out Of The Can) should the judge decode to let him out. He's been in a lockdown rehab in Warren, OH since August and he's completed everything they've asked him to do. Not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, I'm glad he'll be out. On the other, I'm not very happy with the restrictions this puts on us (i.e. no more going away to visit family unless he goes with us, to name one)

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D-Day wrote:Well, today's the day. Mrs. D-Day is up in Geauga County hopefully fetching the D-Day In The Can (at which point he'll be D-Day Out Of The Can) should the judge decode to let him out. He's been in a lockdown rehab in Warren, OH since August and he's completed everything they've asked him to do. Not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, I'm glad he'll be out. On the other, I'm not very happy with the restrictions this puts on us (i.e. no more going away to visit family unless he goes with us, to name one)

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My own little tale of strangulation-worthy kids is this: jughead /jarhead has the week off from work so I asked him to save me a morning and take his mom's car to the dealer. The ignition cylinder has needed replacing anyway, but the big issue is that we're down to one key. Somehow my wife (trying really hard to not call her a bonehead) lost her keys while at the grocery and so we've been living with only one (mine, which I reluctantly gave her). If you can lose one then you can lose a second so I've lived the past month with a low-grade level of worry because I've been too damn busy to get a dealer to cut another key. So junior spends half a day at the dealer in Lapeer and then comes home without the replacement key: oops, I forgot. I, on tbe other hand, didn't forget to tell him that he's a dumbass.

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