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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby D-Day » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:49 am

So a little update. D-Day Out of the Can has been home for two months now and I'm happy to say that he's doing great so far. It hasn't been all unicorns and lollipops, but it's been better than I figured. I figured that by this time one of us would have thrown him out on his ass but that hasn't remotely been the case. He's been doing what he's been told to do, both here and as far as what the court expects of him. There are some things that perplex me, seeing all of this, though:

He actually had a job in a factory about three miles from the Southern OP. The job was third shift and it really helped him out a lot getting back on the horse after almost a year locked up. Then his probation officer made him quit it because he needed to do his court ordered IOP (Intensive Outpatient Program). So I went to go pick him up from this IOP yesterday (which according to him sounds to me a lot like a group session with a bunch of Jerry Springer show tryouts) and I hear that some knucklehead literally ODed in the lobby of the county Health Dept. office. They don't allow them to smoke anywhere on their property, so they send them out on the easement of a side street right next to the road with no one supervising them. These are (allegedly....I'm sure it's a revolving door) recovering junkies. Why would you allow them, basically out next to a street where anyone can come by and pass them drugs and be gone in a flash? I'm sure that's what happened. Especially when they've just been piss tested and in their head they've got some time to get high before the next one. I get that he has to do this and I've told him that. It just seems to me that this is just some court ordered bullshit that's more temptation than anything else when he actually went out and did, in my view, what he needed to do. But I'm not the "expert".........

So now he's sitting here at the house, unable to work, bored, and having to do IOP for the next four months. Hence the not all unicorns and lollipops part. It has to feel like he's wearing golden handcuffs

And don't think we're starting to lighten up, either. I've also told him that I get that this IOP is more temptation than anything else, and if he falls by the wayside, the consequences do not change. We all have to do things we don't like or want to and that he's put himself in this position, and to suck it up, buttercup

But by and large, things are running a lot smoother than I expected. He gets ancy about things, and we sit him down and remind him of how far he's come (other than then the three weeks he was home when the Tango Uniform D-Day TUed, he's been clean a year) and what's at stake for him. So far that's worked pretty well. While I may sound like I'm bitching, I'm actually venting a little. So far I have to say I'm pretty proud of him and pretty happy with how things are going
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby middle aged female » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:13 am

D-Day wrote:So a little update. D-Day Out of the Can has been home for two months now and I'm happy to say that he's doing great so far. It hasn't been all unicorns and lollipops, but it's been better than I figured. I figured that by this time one of us would have thrown him out on his ass but that hasn't remotely been the case. He's been doing what he's been told to do, both here and as far as what the court expects of him. There are some things that perplex me, seeing all of this, though:

He actually had a job in a factory about three miles from the Southern OP. The job was third shift and it really helped him out a lot getting back on the horse after almost a year locked up. Then his probation officer made him quit it because he needed to do his court ordered IOP (Intensive Outpatient Program). So I went to go pick him up from this IOP yesterday (which according to him sounds to me a lot like a group session with a bunch of Jerry Springer show tryouts) and I hear that some knucklehead literally ODed in the lobby of the county Health Dept. office. They don't allow them to smoke anywhere on their property, so they send them out on the easement of a side street right next to the road with no one supervising them. These are (allegedly....I'm sure it's a revolving door) recovering junkies. Why would you allow them, basically out next to a street where anyone can come by and pass them drugs and be gone in a flash? I'm sure that's what happened. Especially when they've just been piss tested and in their head they've got some time to get high before the next one. I get that he has to do this and I've told him that. It just seems to me that this is just some court ordered bullshit that's more temptation than anything else when he actually went out and did, in my view, what he needed to do. But I'm not the "expert".........

So now he's sitting here at the house, unable to work, bored, and having to do IOP for the next four months. Hence the not all unicorns and lollipops part. It has to feel like he's wearing golden handcuffs

And don't think we're starting to lighten up, either. I've also told him that I get that this IOP is more temptation than anything else, and if he falls by the wayside, the consequences do not change. We all have to do things we don't like or want to and that he's put himself in this position, and to suck it up, buttercup

But by and large, things are running a lot smoother than I expected. He gets ancy about things, and we sit him down and remind him of how far he's come (other than then the three weeks he was home when the Tango Uniform D-Day TUed, he's been clean a year) and what's at stake for him. So far that's worked pretty well. While I may sound like I'm bitching, I'm actually venting a little. So far I have to say I'm pretty proud of him and pretty happy with how things are going

Testing them may be part of the program; working afternoons or any shift in an automotive environment has plenty of temptation in itself; when I rehabbed half of the women in the joint were from Pontiac Assembly and the drug and drink stories they told would curl your hair. I got the impression that there wasn't a lunchbox or bra going in and out of that place without a bottle or a few joints in it. Every break was a reason to down a few shots or toke up, or even shoot up if that was your proclivity. So putting them on the street to smoke cigarettes isn't a hell of a lot different than sending them out to work.

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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby D-Day » Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:30 pm

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D-Day wrote:So a little update. D-Day Out of the Can has been home for two months now and I'm happy to say that he's doing great so far. It hasn't been all unicorns and lollipops, but it's been better than I figured. I figured that by this time one of us would have thrown him out on his ass but that hasn't remotely been the case. He's been doing what he's been told to do, both here and as far as what the court expects of him. There are some things that perplex me, seeing all of this, though:

He actually had a job in a factory about three miles from the Southern OP. The job was third shift and it really helped him out a lot getting back on the horse after almost a year locked up. Then his probation officer made him quit it because he needed to do his court ordered IOP (Intensive Outpatient Program). So I went to go pick him up from this IOP yesterday (which according to him sounds to me a lot like a group session with a bunch of Jerry Springer show tryouts) and I hear that some knucklehead literally ODed in the lobby of the county Health Dept. office. They don't allow them to smoke anywhere on their property, so they send them out on the easement of a side street right next to the road with no one supervising them. These are (allegedly....I'm sure it's a revolving door) recovering junkies. Why would you allow them, basically out next to a street where anyone can come by and pass them drugs and be gone in a flash? I'm sure that's what happened. Especially when they've just been piss tested and in their head they've got some time to get high before the next one. I get that he has to do this and I've told him that. It just seems to me that this is just some court ordered bullshit that's more temptation than anything else when he actually went out and did, in my view, what he needed to do. But I'm not the "expert".........

So now he's sitting here at the house, unable to work, bored, and having to do IOP for the next four months. Hence the not all unicorns and lollipops part. It has to feel like he's wearing golden handcuffs

And don't think we're starting to lighten up, either. I've also told him that I get that this IOP is more temptation than anything else, and if he falls by the wayside, the consequences do not change. We all have to do things we don't like or want to and that he's put himself in this position, and to suck it up, buttercup

But by and large, things are running a lot smoother than I expected. He gets ancy about things, and we sit him down and remind him of how far he's come (other than then the three weeks he was home when the Tango Uniform D-Day TUed, he's been clean a year) and what's at stake for him. So far that's worked pretty well. While I may sound like I'm bitching, I'm actually venting a little. So far I have to say I'm pretty proud of him and pretty happy with how things are going

Testing them may be part of the program; working afternoons or any shift in an automotive environment has plenty of temptation in itself; when I rehabbed half of the women in the joint were from Pontiac Assembly and the drug and drink stories they told would curl your hair. I got the impression that there wasn't a lunchbox or bra going in and out of that place without a bottle or a few joints in it. Every break was a reason to down a few shots or toke up, or even shoot up if that was your proclivity. So putting them on the street to smoke cigarettes isn't a hell of a lot different than sending them out to work.


You know, I thought about that. But that's giving them way to much credit. And I get that that has to be one shitty fucking job -- dealing with addicts day in, day out (a point that I have driven home with the D-Day Out of the Can), most of whom are just there for two reasons: A.) to stay out of the slammer and B.) to network for their next fix. Not to get well. His PO damn near violated him and threw him back in jail for not getting into this program (PO told him to quit his job three weeks ago and he tried to register as soon as he quit) soon enough after he quit. It took me calling, speaking with someone and basically threatening to show up in court with phone records to show that he did try almost every day and no one was calling him back

And I've told him the same thing; you better get used to being treated like this, because it is what it is...........it's just not helpful, in fact, it's frustrating because it's making it more difficult for me to do my part
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby frank - up in grand blanc » Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:05 pm

http://www.freep.com/story/life/2016/03/03/which-michigan-cities-watch-porn-most/81273942/

These 10 Michigan cities search for porn the most
Brian Manzullo, Detroit Free Press 3:29 p.m. EST March 3, 2016


Residents in Southgate have some serious explaining to do.

Actually, most of Metro Detroit has some serious explaining to do.

In the name of science and data journalism, the fine folks at RoadSnacks.net recently decided to investigate which 10 cities in Michigan search for porn the most, using Google Trends search data from the past decade.

"You might say it's easy sleazy," writer Nick James points out. And he's right; this is hardly the most scientific way to find out who watches the most porn in the Great Lakes State.

But just to humor you (hey, before you complain in the comments, you're the one who clicked on this story), we did our own search this afternoon, and here's what Google Trends shows us, with each city's Google search index for "porn" since 2004:

1. Southgate - 100

2. Allen Park - 78

3. Davison - 77

4. Fenton - 68

5. Harrison Township - 67

6. Westland - 67

7. Grand Blanc - 64

8. Lincoln Park - 63

9. Port Huron - 63

10. Detroit - 61


I am so totally going to beat the shit out of those kids tonight when I get home...

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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby The Suburban Avenger » Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:30 pm

frank - up in grand blanc wrote:http://www.freep.com/story/life/2016/03/03/which-michigan-cities-watch-porn-most/81273942/

These 10 Michigan cities search for porn the most
Brian Manzullo, Detroit Free Press 3:29 p.m. EST March 3, 2016


Residents in Southgate have some serious explaining to do.

Actually, most of Metro Detroit has some serious explaining to do.

In the name of science and data journalism, the fine folks at RoadSnacks.net recently decided to investigate which 10 cities in Michigan search for porn the most, using Google Trends search data from the past decade.

"You might say it's easy sleazy," writer Nick James points out. And he's right; this is hardly the most scientific way to find out who watches the most porn in the Great Lakes State.

But just to humor you (hey, before you complain in the comments, you're the one who clicked on this story), we did our own search this afternoon, and here's what Google Trends shows us, with each city's Google search index for "porn" since 2004:

1. Southgate - 100

2. Allen Park - 78

3. Davison - 77

4. Fenton - 68

5. Harrison Township - 67

6. Westland - 67

7. Grand Blanc - 64

8. Lincoln Park - 63

9. Port Huron - 63

10. Detroit - 61


I am so totally going to beat the shit out of those kids tonight when I get home...


I'm calling bullshit. There's no way 63 people in Lincoln Park have access to the Internets.
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Re: HFD Kids Do the Darn'dest Things

Postby Toolbox » Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:41 pm

The Suburban Avenger wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:http://www.freep.com/story/life/2016/03/03/which-michigan-cities-watch-porn-most/81273942/

These 10 Michigan cities search for porn the most
Brian Manzullo, Detroit Free Press 3:29 p.m. EST March 3, 2016


Residents in Southgate have some serious explaining to do.

Actually, most of Metro Detroit has some serious explaining to do.

In the name of science and data journalism, the fine folks at RoadSnacks.net recently decided to investigate which 10 cities in Michigan search for porn the most, using Google Trends search data from the past decade.

"You might say it's easy sleazy," writer Nick James points out. And he's right; this is hardly the most scientific way to find out who watches the most porn in the Great Lakes State.

But just to humor you (hey, before you complain in the comments, you're the one who clicked on this story), we did our own search this afternoon, and here's what Google Trends shows us, with each city's Google search index for "porn" since 2004:

1. Southgate - 100

2. Allen Park - 78

3. Davison - 77

4. Fenton - 68

5. Harrison Township - 67

6. Westland - 67

7. Grand Blanc - 64

8. Lincoln Park - 63

9. Port Huron - 63

10. Detroit - 61


I am so totally going to beat the shit out of those kids tonight when I get home...


I'm calling bullshit. There's no way 63 people in Lincoln Park have access to the Internets.


It's just Chuck checking at all the wifi hot spots in town.
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