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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby Random Douchebag » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:22 pm

pdtpuck wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:sometimes you guys are a huge buzzkill

edit: OK, I'll do it. Just dotted over to Google Images for a funny pic of a lathe accident and... none of them were funny. eep. squared.

Thanks for piquing my curiosity.

*shivers*

I tried telling you, but did you want to listen? No, just randy being overly precautious. A lathe is no joke.
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby pdtpuck » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:55 pm

Random Douchebag wrote:
pdtpuck wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:sometimes you guys are a huge buzzkill

edit: OK, I'll do it. Just dotted over to Google Images for a funny pic of a lathe accident and... none of them were funny. eep. squared.

Thanks for piquing my curiosity.

*shivers*

I tried telling you, but did you want to listen? No, just randy being overly precautious. A lathe is no joke.

My dad was a pattern maker in a machine shop and told me some nasty stories. Thank God it never happened to him. Especially while he used a lathe for "government work."
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby The Beav » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:46 am

pdtpuck wrote:
Random Douchebag wrote:
pdtpuck wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:sometimes you guys are a huge buzzkill

edit: OK, I'll do it. Just dotted over to Google Images for a funny pic of a lathe accident and... none of them were funny. eep. squared.

Thanks for piquing my curiosity.

*shivers*

I tried telling you, but did you want to listen? No, just randy being overly precautious. A lathe is no joke.

My dad was a pattern maker in a machine shop and told me some nasty stories. Thank God it never happened to him. Especially while he used a lathe for "government work."


Grandfather, Uncle and cousin on my dad's side were all pattern makers for Chevy Grey Iron. Grandpops was the very last wood pattern maker in the shop. He had some horror stories for sure. He could also sharpen knives better than anyone I've known and try as he might, he couldn't teach me to do it like he could. I can whet a blade pretty good, but he would shave the grey bristle off his cheek with my Swiss Army knife when he was done. It's one of the lasting memories I have of the old man.
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby pdtpuck » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:18 am

The Beav wrote:
pdtpuck wrote:
Random Douchebag wrote:
pdtpuck wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:sometimes you guys are a huge buzzkill

edit: OK, I'll do it. Just dotted over to Google Images for a funny pic of a lathe accident and... none of them were funny. eep. squared.

Thanks for piquing my curiosity.

*shivers*

I tried telling you, but did you want to listen? No, just randy being overly precautious. A lathe is no joke.

My dad was a pattern maker in a machine shop and told me some nasty stories. Thank God it never happened to him. Especially while he used a lathe for "government work."


Grandfather, Uncle and cousin on my dad's side were all pattern makers for Chevy Grey Iron. Grandpops was the very last wood pattern maker in the shop. He had some horror stories for sure. He could also sharpen knives better than anyone I've known and try as he might, he couldn't teach me to do it like he could. I can whet a blade pretty good, but he would shave the grey bristle off his cheek with my Swiss Army knife when he was done. It's one of the lasting memories I have of the old man.

My dad was a metal pattern maker, but he worked with some wood makers. Those guys were true craftsmen. The woodwork in their homes was usually handmade and gorgeous.
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby frank - up in grand blanc » Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:19 pm

No pics yet, but the wood-drying kiln that's been occupying my free time is coming together. If there's anyone left here for whom wood (from a tree, I mean; which reminds me: anyone know if Super Gay is doing OK?) brings on wood then you'll appreciate my ecstasy at finding a trove of clean hardwood pallets. Red, white, and (I believe) black oak, hard maple, beech, birch, and ash. All just a bit too wet for furniture, but close enough that a DIY dehumidifier kiln will turn this into the raw material for counter tops, a proper woodworker's bench, horse for draw knives, etc. Yes, very stoked.

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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby meme » Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:38 pm

frank - up in grand blanc wrote:No pics yet, but the wood-drying kiln that's been occupying my free time is coming together. If there's anyone left here for whom wood (from a tree, I mean; which reminds me: anyone know if Super Gay is doing OK?) brings on wood then you'll appreciate my ecstasy at finding a trove of clean hardwood pallets. Red, white, and (I believe) black oak, hard maple, beech, birch, and ash. All just a bit too wet for furniture, but close enough that a DIY dehumidifier kiln will turn this into the raw material for counter tops, a proper woodworker's bench, horse for draw knives, etc. Yes, very stoked.


i'd love to see a couple pix. when you get a chance that is
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby The Beav » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:57 pm

meme wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:No pics yet, but the wood-drying kiln that's been occupying my free time is coming together. If there's anyone left here for whom wood (from a tree, I mean; which reminds me: anyone know if Super Gay is doing OK?) brings on wood then you'll appreciate my ecstasy at finding a trove of clean hardwood pallets. Red, white, and (I believe) black oak, hard maple, beech, birch, and ash. All just a bit too wet for furniture, but close enough that a DIY dehumidifier kiln will turn this into the raw material for counter tops, a proper woodworker's bench, horse for draw knives, etc. Yes, very stoked.


i'd love to see a couple pix. when you get a chance that is


You do know you're asking FUIGB to post pictures, right?
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby middle aged female » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:08 pm

The Beav wrote:
meme wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:No pics yet, but the wood-drying kiln that's been occupying my free time is coming together. If there's anyone left here for whom wood (from a tree, I mean; which reminds me: anyone know if Super Gay is doing OK?) brings on wood then you'll appreciate my ecstasy at finding a trove of clean hardwood pallets. Red, white, and (I believe) black oak, hard maple, beech, birch, and ash. All just a bit too wet for furniture, but close enough that a DIY dehumidifier kiln will turn this into the raw material for counter tops, a proper woodworker's bench, horse for draw knives, etc. Yes, very stoked.


i'd love to see a couple pix. when you get a chance that is


You do know you're asking FUIGB to post pictures, right?

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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby meme » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:52 pm

The Beav wrote:
meme wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:No pics yet, but the wood-drying kiln that's been occupying my free time is coming together. If there's anyone left here for whom wood (from a tree, I mean; which reminds me: anyone know if Super Gay is doing OK?) brings on wood then you'll appreciate my ecstasy at finding a trove of clean hardwood pallets. Red, white, and (I believe) black oak, hard maple, beech, birch, and ash. All just a bit too wet for furniture, but close enough that a DIY dehumidifier kiln will turn this into the raw material for counter tops, a proper woodworker's bench, horse for draw knives, etc. Yes, very stoked.


i'd love to see a couple pix. when you get a chance that is


You do know you're asking FUIGB to post pictures, right?


that hadn't occurred to me. but i would like to see some. guess i'll just do a search.....
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby frank - up in grand blanc » Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:39 am

meme wrote:
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meme wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:No pics yet, but the wood-drying kiln that's been occupying my free time is coming together. If there's anyone left here for whom wood (from a tree, I mean; which reminds me: anyone know if Super Gay is doing OK?) brings on wood then you'll appreciate my ecstasy at finding a trove of clean hardwood pallets. Red, white, and (I believe) black oak, hard maple, beech, birch, and ash. All just a bit too wet for furniture, but close enough that a DIY dehumidifier kiln will turn this into the raw material for counter tops, a proper woodworker's bench, horse for draw knives, etc. Yes, very stoked.


i'd love to see a couple pix. when you get a chance that is


You do know you're asking FUIGB to post pictures, right?


that hadn't occurred to me. but i would like to see some. guess i'll just do a search.....

Once, a long fuckin time ago, I posted a pix. Fear not.

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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby Mulligan » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:33 am

frank - up in grand blanc wrote:Once, a long fuckin time ago, I posted a pix. Fear not.


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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby The Beav » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:41 pm

Mulligan wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:Once, a long fuckin time ago, I posted a pix. Fear not.




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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby jmy » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:00 am

frank - up in grand blanc wrote:No pics yet, but the wood-drying kiln that's been occupying my free time is coming together. If there's anyone left here for whom wood (from a tree, I mean; which reminds me: anyone know if Super Gay is doing OK?) brings on wood then you'll appreciate my ecstasy at finding a trove of clean hardwood pallets. Red, white, and (I believe) black oak, hard maple, beech, birch, and ash. All just a bit too wet for furniture, but close enough that a DIY dehumidifier kiln will turn this into the raw material for counter tops, a proper woodworker's bench, horse for draw knives, etc. Yes, very stoked.


Interesting. I'd like to see it. My dad has been chasing down trees and having them sawed into planks. He's been stickering them and waiting for them to dry, but this might speed the process. I've found some sizeable pieces of lilac and rosebud, which might make some interesting small projects, but the pieces are too small to treat like larger lumber. I was thinking of kiln drying them in the oven, but this might work too.
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Re: Made It/ Fixed It/ Broke It

Postby frank - up in grand blanc » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:19 am

jmy wrote:
frank - up in grand blanc wrote:No pics yet, but the wood-drying kiln that's been occupying my free time is coming together. If there's anyone left here for whom wood (from a tree, I mean; which reminds me: anyone know if Super Gay is doing OK?) brings on wood then you'll appreciate my ecstasy at finding a trove of clean hardwood pallets. Red, white, and (I believe) black oak, hard maple, beech, birch, and ash. All just a bit too wet for furniture, but close enough that a DIY dehumidifier kiln will turn this into the raw material for counter tops, a proper woodworker's bench, horse for draw knives, etc. Yes, very stoked.


Interesting. I'd like to see it. My dad has been chasing down trees and having them sawed into planks. He's been stickering them and waiting for them to dry, but this might speed the process. I've found some sizeable pieces of lilac and rosebud, which might make some interesting small projects, but the pieces are too small to treat like larger lumber. I was thinking of kiln drying them in the oven, but this might work too.


Based upon what I've read a standard household oven may not be practical because it will either dry the material too fast and so it will check OR it will take too long (weeks, if you dial down the temperature) that it will just piss you off ("we cannot have fish sticks for dinner because the oven is loaded with WHAT?!?!"). Selfishly I say: try the oven, and then report back because I'd like to know if it can be done.

Air-drying may or may not be appropriate depending upon the kinds of projects that you guys have in mind. Based upon what I've read wood for interior projects should be at or below 8% moisture content (Harbor Freight has a $13 meter that the online hobbyist community seems to like), but air-drying will get you only as far as somewhere in the teens. I had been thinking "oh bullshit" about the need to fall beneath a certain moisture threshold -lot's of antique wood structures and wood furniture in museums, all presumably constructed of air-dried lumber- but I've read that kilns have been in used for over 100 years and then for every Chippendale highboy at DuMochelle there are probably 10,000 other contemporary pieces that twisted their way into firewood.

I've air-dried silver maple, sycamore, and apple (one year per inch of thickness) with good results, but so far I've only used the material for small projects. Some say that air-dried or slightly wetter wood responds better to hand tools than does kiln-dried; difficult for me to say if there's a difference because the only silver maple that I've used is this home-grown stuff.

There's a lot online about home-processing lumber, and it's from there that I've gained my education. My plan is inspired by what I've read, but with the unique twist that that it can be knocked down and then stored flat, i.e. suspended as a stack of pieces from the ceiling of the garage when not in use.

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